The original Black Sabbath drummer Bill Ward was the latest interview guest of Player FM’s ‘The Eddie Trunk Podcast’ last week and talked about his earlier days with Sabbath, and what he really thinks about the drumming skills of Vinny Appice.

As you may already know, Bill was the classic drummer of Sabbath since he decided to disappear during a tour all of a sudden. While he returned to the band several times, he parted ways with his friends for good in 1984 and was replaced by yet another talented drummer Vinny.

During their latest appearance on The Eddie Trunk Podcast, both Vinny and Bill talked about each other’s drumming skills. Bill admitted that since he’s an orchestrational drummer, and stated that Vinny played fantastic on both ‘Heaven & Hell’ and ‘Black Sabbath.’ He also admitted that he’s always talking with the drummers, and his drum seat does not fit most of them.

Here is what Bill said about Vinny:

“Yeah, Vin’s a drummer, and I’m an orchestrational drummer, so Vin – he plays things down. Just listen to any Dio record and he plays great on all that stuff, he plays fantastic.

It’s just really very straightforward, everything hangs correctly, and it sounds how a rock drummer would sound. But I’m not a rock drummer, I’m an orchestrational drummer, and I play differently. If Tony plays a chord or Geezer plays a bass note, I react to that completely differently.

I don’t start lying down chops or things like that – I’m just simply not built like that, I’m not designed like that, and I probably never will be.

I thought that Vinny, when he played – I’ve talked to Vin about that, I’ve talked to a lot of drummers that have come in and sat in my drum seat – they all say the same thing as they try to alter their style of playing to fit in the more orchestrated pieces.”

He continued:

“A lot of jazz things there that I was doing too. So there’s a lot of guys that have sat in that drum chair and that have been very kind about my drumming or appreciative of what I played.

The hi-hats on ‘War Pigs’ was always a thing for everybody to play, which is cool. I think Black Sabbath worked with Ozzy, and Geezer and Tony, and me – that worked, there’s something about that, that seemed to work.

That was a thing and everything that happened after that warped and sounded different and became different. And it’s sounding good, but it was just different, it didn’t have that quality that we had when the four of us would do something together.

It’s a different thing, it’s a different band.”

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