Speaking in a recent interview with The Liquid Conversations, Clutch frontman Neil Fallon explained how Napster changed whole music industry.

He said that Spotify and Apple Music are like a record store for free in everybody’s phone or desktop. Here’s the statement:

“I’ve seen bands before and after their sets treat it as if they were digging ditches. You do this long enough, sure, you can get jaded in some ways, but I find it crucial to be incredibly grateful. Because to make a living in the creative arts is a very rare thing for anybody.

Most of my friends who are musicians or painters or writers, they do it after work, or on the weekends. That’s what they really want to do, but it’s not sustaining them and their families. Knock on wood, we’re in a position now where we go on tour and I no longer have to worry about getting a gig in between those tours.

I think early on, I took it for granted because it happened so quickly, and it was only after some years – especially after a family gets brought into the big picture – you have to do some soul-searching and say, ‘Will I be able to support a family doing this?’

We rolled the dice, and thankfully, that also happened at the same time that the internet became such a big thing, which put a lot of wind in our sails. All the A&R representatives on planet Earth couldn’t do anything with us.

Now, it’s much more word-of-mouth on a global scale… When I say the internet, originally, it was file sharing and Napster, and then BitTorrent and what-have-you, or just peer-to-peer.

Then Spotify and streaming services and Apple Music, and suddenly, there was a record store for free in everybody’s phone or desktop. I think people just talked. That’s when our shows got a lot bigger… The world has gotten a lot larger for Clutch. We used to be able to do a tour; now, we have to do half a dozen of them to feel like we covered all our bases.”

You can listen the entire interview from below.