After collaborating on several tours with Genesis drummer Phil Collins, the bassist Leland Sklar said in a recent conversation with Mitch Lafon and Jeremy White that the drummer cannot hold sticks anymore due to his illness.

Phil Collins performed with Genesis and developed his career with his solo work starting from 1963. The drummer has suffered from several unfortunate health problems throughout his life, which affected his performance in music. He even considered suicide but didn’t go through with it because of his children, one of them being Lily Collins, the much appreciated Hollywood actress.

In 2000, he suddenly lost hearing and was told by a couple of doctors that he would not hear from his left ear again. However, the drummer almost completely recovered in a few years since the loss turned out to be because of a viral infection.

Nine years later, he had to go through surgery on his spine, and after the surgery, he lost sensation in his fingers. This was the incident that caused him to consider suicide because he couldn’t play drums as he used anymore. He had to tape the drumsticks to his hands to play.

The doctors said that it would take practice to be able to play drums properly again. On top of this, he was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes in 2017, and his foot got infected as a result. He was going on stage with a stick and sitting down while performing.

Leland Sklar played with Phil Collins many times and accompanied him in his solo tours. In his recent conversation, he stated that he was surprised that Collins wanted to continue performing after going through all of those health issues in 2017. He said that he could not even hold the drumsticks.

Here is what he said:

“Phil’s been a remarkable artist to work with all these decades. When we did the first final, farewell tour in 2004, we really thought that was going to be the end of it. So we were all surprised when he called a couple of years ago, and we did the ‘Not Dead Yet’ tour from 2017 to 2019 – because he had some really bad surgeries that damaged his leg and his hands for playing.

He can’t really hold sticks anymore. His mind can play drums, but his body can’t play drums. And the beauty of that tour, and now the Genesis tour is the fact that his son Nicholas is the drummer. And Nick – if there was ever a gene transference from father to son, it’s there because Nick was a badass drummer when he was four years old.

It’s not like he got this gig because his daddy is Phil Collins, he got it because he earned it. And the videos I’m seeing of the Genesis tour that’s going on right now, he is absolutely killing it.”

You can watch the entire interview below.