Carmine Appice, the legendary drummer, made an interview with Pete Pardo and opened up about the music in the early 1990s. Appice also revealed his opinions on the real creator of heavy metal and it is Metallica, not Black Sabbath.

Carmine Appice is best known for his associations with Vanilla Fudge, Cactus, and the power trio Beck, Bogert & Appice. Appice was inducted to the Classic Drummer Hall of Fame in 2013 and in the following year to the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame. But his career goes back to the 1960s when he started playing with Vanilla Fudge and since then he is an epic drummer in the music industry.

Carmine Appice has a long experience in the rock music genre, during an interview with Sea of Tranquility, he opened up about the downfall of most hard rock bands from the radio and MTV due to the rise of grunge in the early 1990s. He stated that other than Nirvana, Stone Temple Pilots, and Pearl Jam, everyone was experiencing a fall.

Here is what Appice said about the music industry in the 90s:

“Those days, nobody would touch us, because we were all dinosaurs. All the Nirvana and stuff… Grunge was in, nobody wanted to touch us, all the bands. Ted NugentDIO… I was playing with Edgar Winter in ’91, ’92 while doing Mother’s Army, and I was playing clubs with Edgar Winter, like 500-seat clubs. DIO was playing the same clubs, with my brother.

Everybody was experiencing a drop in popularity. Black Sabbath wasn’t happening. Ozzy Osbourne really wasn’t happening. Nobody was happening except Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam and all those guys.”

Carmine Appice also talked about Metallica when Pete Pardo pointed out that they were playing to enormous crowds and selling plenty of records at that time. Appice stated that Metallica was different from everyone and also referred to them as the real creators of heavy metal. He surprisingly called all the other bands like Mötley Crüe hard rock and explained that what makes the sound heavy metal is a scratchy guitar sound.

Here is what Appice said about Metallica and Mötley Crüe:

Metallica was not like all these other bands. Metallica I consider the band that really created what you’d call heavy metal. All these other bands, Mötley CrüeBlue Murder… It’s hard rock, that’s not heavy metal. That Metallica sound, that sounds like scratching guitars, that, to me, is what heavy metal is, which turned into death metal and speed metal and every other metal.

But Ozzy‘s first album was hard rock. Mötley Crüe was hard rock. Whitesnake, it’s hard rock. King Kobra was hard rock. It was all hard rock. Blue Murder, they detuned a little bit and it was heavy, but it wasn’t what I consider heavy metal. Heavy metal was that really scratchy guitar sound.

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