During a recent interview with Rolling Stones, Judas Priest‘s lead singer Rob Halford gave some recommendations about the process of getting sober.

The iconic frontman of Judas Priest, Rob Halford struggled with alcoholism until the mid-1980s. However, Halford stated earlier this year that he had been sober for 34 years.

During an interview with Rolling Stones, Rob was asked about being sober for a long time. He shared the details of the process and gave some sincere advice for those who were battling for getting sober:

“Oh, every day is a fucking struggle. It’s just unbelievable. But what sobriety gives you is just this incredible strength that is in all of us.

All of us are strong people; sometimes you have to go to the bottom of the shit pit, as I call it, to realize that you have tremendous strength and resilience to survive.

In terms of sobriety and learning to live as a sober person, you have to dig deep for the strength to do it, because you can lose it.

It’s incredibly fragile. Strength is a funny thing – because it can break at any moment. It’s finding something in yourself that you can only find by going to the darkest of places.”

Rob also answered some questions about his famous S&M look with a black leather jacket and he explained how he found this look:

“A good look has been important since rock ‘n’ roll began. I think the way that Priest had that journey of visual discovery was just by experimentation more than anything else.

If you look at primitive footage of Priest on The Old Grey Whistle Test on the BBC when we looked a little bit like Greta Van Fleet.  It’s remarkable. I think we developed our look in simple steps.

You’d look at yourself and go, ‘No, this doesn’t feel right. The music is so strong, angry, and dark in places, and it’s deep and full of power … and I’m wearing a paisley shirt. I need to do something about this.’

So just putting out a simple leather biker’s jacket was, for my part, just a major, major step. Suddenly you look at yourself in the mirror and go, ‘That’s more like it. Now it’s connecting.’ From that point on, it began to develop.”

Click here to read the entire interview with Rob Halford.