Massachusetts-based metalcore band Killswitch Engage guitarist Adam Dutkiewicz had a new conversation with Robb Flynn of No F’n Regrets this week and talked about many topics from the first time he visited Japan at the age of 19 to his thoughts on Lars Ulrich‘s performance in ‘…And Justice for All.’

The fourth studio album of Metallica, ‘…And Justice For All’ was released back in 1988 by Elektra Records and it’s the first-ever album of the band after the unfortunate death of the late bassist Cliff Burton. The album is considered the first metal album that managed to achieve chart success in the United States and it suddenly became the best-selling album of ‘tallica upon its release.

During his latest conversation with The NFR Podcast, Killswitch Engage guitarist was asked to name the first-ever Metallica song he learned. Adam praised the legendary drummer Lars Ulrich stating that the kick drum on ‘Justice’ got more tick than a clock, he also stated that it’s his favorite Metallica record of all time.

Adam shared his thoughts saying:

“‘Justice’ just came out, so I was like, I remember hearing, sonically, that record for the first time, being like, ‘Holy shit!’

Now I can say it’s ‘scooped,’ but I was just like, ‘That’s so fucking balls tight and heavy, oh my god!’ It blew my mind, because, like, ‘Puppets’ didn’t sound that scooped. The kick drum on ‘Justice,’ tick-tick-tick, it’s got more tick than a clock, man. It’s like, ‘Holy crap, this is insanely sick!’

So I think I started learning ‘Blackened,’ ‘…And Justice for All,’ going through that record – love the riffs. I know this is kind of strange I said that, but that could be my favorite Metallica record just because of the impact that it had on my life at the time. I know, it’s a crazy thing to say but ‘Frayed Ends of Sanity,’ dude…

After the guitar section with all the harmonies, those fucking riffs are undeniably perfect – just badass. It doesn’t get any better, I love that shit. That’s right there, that’s the soundtrack of me learning how to down-pick – that and ‘Puppets.'”

You can watch the interview below.