Mastodon guitarist Bill Kelliher spoke in an interview with The Sydney Morning Herald and explained his thoughts about 2015’s Grammy Awards at which Mastodon, Slipknot, Anthrax and Motorhead lost to Tenacious D in the Best Metal Performance category.

He said:

The Grammys are weird. I thought it [joining the Grammy committee for Hard Rock and Heavy Metal in 2015] was my chance to step up and do this for the community. No one takes [the awards] seriously, because it’s always the same fuckin’ people that win every year.

Like, ‘Oh, look, it’s Dave Grohl again!’ [In 2015], we lost to Jack Black and Tenacious D. That was a bit of a kick in the balls, because they’re a comedy duo.

[But, the Grammys are] trying to get their shit together, trying to get a little street cred. So, they need younger voters. Which, well, I guess I’m younger, at least than the average voter, some 65-year-old white guy who’s never heard of Mastodon or Baroness or Ghost, so they see Iron Maiden or Foo Fighters and just vote for them.”

Click here the entire interview.